OT: What The Heck are they doing... NFL Talk

[Lil Salmon]

Being a Raiders fan since I was a fetus I don't even know what to say to this... Metalslayer as another avid Raider Nation fan... WTF!

http://www.raiders.com/newsroom/newsroomNewsDetail.jsp?id=27512

-Lil'

[Tempe]

Your a Fantasy footballer I think...you better get him in your draft :crazy: :laugh: . I think Al Davis has finally gone insane :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

That's Ok Lil, I'm a Cowboys fan for life...Bill and TO should work out pretty good for us :censored: :rolleyes:

[Craydaddy]

Heck if they needed a guy just to wear a uniform I could have done that!! I would do it for half the pay as that guy to!! LOL!!!

When did you become a raiders fan? I thought you liked the Eagles?

[Lil Salmon]

WHAT! I have been a Radiers fan since i was sucking my thumb!

[Tiogafishaddict]

im a eagles fan!! and they just got dante stallworth,, pure speeeeeeeeed baby

[Tempe]

...and hands of stone :D

[Tiogafishaddict]

...and hands of stone :D

hands of stone? look at his stats from last year? but hey i got to give ya somthing you guys got uhhhh well jeff george!!! :D

[Tempe]

...we got TO :o . Just busting your stones, Stallworth might fit in nice. Prediction...NFC East = Best division in NFL this year.

[woolybugger65]

that's ok with me Lil. i am a chargers fan!! hey, george was a stud in the early 90's.

[Eric**]

Being a Raiders fan since I was a fetus I don't even know what to say to this... Metalslayer as another avid Raider Nation fan... WTF!

http://www.raiders.com/newsroom/newsroomNewsDetail.jsp?id=27512

-Lil'


Awefull! Ridiculous! Ludacris! just plain old dumb!!! I too UNFORUNATELY bleed silver and black. Here we go again, another great season! :mad:

Heres to Al :humble:

Eric

[usmcnut]

...we got TO :o . Just busting your stones, Stallworth might fit in nice. Prediction...NFC East = Best division in NFL this year.

NFC EAST HAH!!!
And TO ..please he already got fines 2 days ago and he isn't even playing..
The cowboys should cut him and suck up their loses. He is the biggest cry baby in football.. And no I'm not an Eagles fan.. And no I don't want him for my team.. I want Randy Moss another pothead would do just fine on the Dolphins!!
But yea TO needs to go to CFL or something to get his head on right.. He is pullin this crap cause he thinks hes to good to practice to play pre-season.. to work with the team .. Bill will not stand for this crap.. I give it till week 4 and he's done!!!

[Tiogafishaddict]

...we got TO :o . Just busting your stones, Stallworth might fit in nice. Prediction...NFC East = Best division in NFL this year.

gawd i know the memories of him still haunt me,, if he was even just a little less mentally ill,, he would be even greater then what he is.. just the eagles lacked anyone to really stretch the field. at the very least they will have to take note of stallworths 4.2 40

[gottum]

Lil-
You might better jump ship. You know your wife's team will open up a can of whoop a$$ on the rest of the NFL this season.:eek:

[usmcnut]

And I really don't see the problem you Raiders fans are having with George?
I see him doing a lot better then Collins did last year!!! he's the bum!
If Moss really wants to play this year unlike last year.. Geoge will find and I think you guys will have a heck of a season..

[pulaskinaut]

Like the Jets tried to do with Vinnie Testaverde last year. Look how well that turned out!! I remember the "mad bomber" Darryl Lamonica, Warren Wells, Fred Biletnikoff and the Kenny "the snake" Stabler. An old-time fan of the silver and black-- the toughest team in football for many years. The refs had to call a lot of penalties just to keep them from killing people. Lyle Alzado,Jack Tatum, Howie Long before he was a Fox talking Head! They have had a ton of great characters over the years. Maybe they could bring back George Blanda as a backup.........just kidding

[Flythrower]

I have noticed a trend with the Raiders over the years. They pick up scrub QB's or QB's way past their prime......Kerry Collins (Recovering Alcoholic), Aooron Brooks (Likes the backwards pass better than the forward), Rich Gannon (Was about 50 years old when he played good), Jeff George (I have nothing good to say about that).

Jump on the Bills bandwagon, a young team with potential!! Give them 2 more years and they will be ruling the league....Allright, I am now ready for the bashing that this will inevitably bring.:banplease:

On a side note, Eagles got a real good deal in Stallworth. Now they just need a RB that has not had 2 knee surgeries or one that can make it through a season.....

[gottum]

Just remmeber there's only ONE team in NY-
GIANTS!!!

[Tiogafishaddict]

Just remmeber there's only ONE team in NY-
GIANTS!!!

OMG, a giants fan!!!! ewwwwwwwww, philly is gonna rack their arses up this year,, hell with half the team on IR the giants barley got by philly last year
:argue:

[gottum]

Philly? They have a football team still??:rolleyes:

[WNYfisher]

Dont the Giants and Jets play in New Jersey?:rolleyes:

Only one in state team....BILLS

[gottum]

Bills=
Boy I Love Losing Superbowls

Lmaomf!!

[Lil Salmon]

NOW THIS IS WHAT I ENJOY ABOUT THE SITE... SWEET OLE BALL BUSTING WOOHOO! :D

pulaskinut... man do you bring back the good old days of the Raiders supremacy. Most was before my time but I have done enough research. In my honest opinion they should have picked up Linert in the draft.

Stacy has already started with the Giants crap :D

and the Eagles... I hope they do well. I really think the Stallworth pickup was unbelievable for them and will go a long way towards their return to the playoffs.

Keep it coming fellas. I love reading football talk!

[pulaskinaut]

One problem the Giants had last year was the receivers couldn't hold on to the ball. Eli's numbers could have been better if they could catch. With Brett Favre, he throws the ball so hard they seem to be afraid of it but hopefully Eli will do well this year as he matures.

[Flythrower]

Dont the Giants and Jets play in New Jersey?:rolleyes:

Only one in state team....BILLS




That's right!!..The rest of the teams with a New York in front of them are imposters...Don'r even get me started om how bad the Jets are going to be this year, as for the Giants, they have potential to be a good team, but I will never admit it because me and my buddy argue back and forth (He is die-hard Giants and I am diehard Bills)

[Flythrower]

:) :) Bills=
Boy I Love Losing Superbowls

Lmaomf!!



That is an old and tired saying..;)

4 in a row, albeit it we never won, but that is a feat in itself...what other team can make it to the big game 4 years in a row and manage to lose it...that takes skill to lose 4 games in a row...:(

[Flythrower]

Ahhh!!..I smell rotting Salmon carcasses and pigskins..BEST TIME OF THE YEAR!!!...:D

[pulaskinaut]

Sorry Flythrower but the rest of the state makes fun of the Bills and most people probably think Buffalo is part of Canada! Jim Kelly was a good guy though. I felt bad they didn't win at least once!!!!

[Tempe]

...most people probably think Buffalo is part of Canada!

It is...isn't it? This Buffalo team, Don't they play in the CFL...or was it Europe...no, they're not good enough for Europe? :D

[gottum]

most people probably think Buffalo is part of Canada!


IT ISN'T??
I thought they succeded after there last SB loss?:help:

[Flythrower]

Sorry Flythrower but the rest of the state makes fun of the Bills and most people probably think Buffalo is part of Canada! Jim Kelly was a good guy though. I felt bad they didn't win at least once!!!!




I know..:(

It is tough being a Bills fan. But I approach every season with renewed hope...;)

I notice the majority of the people who run this site are from PA. It makes sense they are all Eagles fans...that will be the tightest division in football this year...

As for my realistic pick to win it all this year...ready??? drum roll please............THE DOPLPHINS....Culpepper will have a career year, Chris Chambers will develop into a stud receiver because he has a "real" QB and Ronnie Brown will be the next fantasy Stud RB...Mark my words Salmon Nation!!:humble: :humble:

[usmcnut]

I know..:(

It is tough being a Bills fan. But I approach every season with renewed hope...;)

I notice the majority of the people who run this site are from PA. It makes sense they are all Eagles fans...that will be the tightest division in football this year...

As for my realistic pick to win it all this year...ready??? drum roll please............THE DOPLPHINS....Culpepper will have a career year, Chris Chambers will develop into a stud receiver because he has a "real" QB and Ronnie Brown will be the next fantasy Stud RB...Mark my words Salmon Nation!!:humble: :humble:

see someone knows what they are talkin about.. GO DOLPHINS!!!!

if only Ricki would have said he couldn't pee today we would be great!! Ronnie needs to step it up a bite.. but he's right Chris is gonna be the man.. and Culpepper is gonna have a mvp year..

[Tempe]

win it all this year...THE DOPLPHINS

WOW...as a bills fan, you're going straight to hell for that...well they do play in the easiest division in the NFL. I've heard stories this Seattle team was pretty good.

[usmcnut]

I'm a fan but Ronnie Brown is def. a number 2 back.. he will get hurt again this year mark my words.. he is use to sharing the load .. he did it in college and his first year as a pro.. he will not be able to go the year....!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Flythrower]

WOW...as a bills fan, you're going straight to hell for that...well they do play in the easiest division in the NFL. I've heard stories this Seattle team was pretty good.


I am going to hell for a lot worse things than that, but that is another story...:D


Seattle is overrated, Last year was there only chance, now back to reality for that cinderella team...Whoever picked Shaun Alexander with their first pick in fantasy will be dissapointed this year...

[usmcnut]

I picked LJ last year as a number 3 back.. and look what happened.. And my league has NO KEEPERS.. WTF.

[Lil Salmon]

I am staying with Peyton.. u can't go wrong..

[Flythrower]

I am staying with Peyton.. u can't go wrong..


He went 3rd in my draft. He will have a really good year...He has a good year every year!!!...

I am surprised Salmon Crazy has not organized a FF league. hint hint...I would be game...;)

[usmcnut]

In my league QB's only get 4 pts for a trown TD.. so running backs are the hot pick.. everyone in the first round gets there RB then QB then WR

[Tempe]

I am surprised Salmon Crazy has not organized a FF league. hint hint...I would be game...;)

I think someone, Lil I think, tried last year, I was game also, but it flamed out.

[Lil Salmon]

Your wish is granted :D

http://www.salmoncrazy.com/vforums/showthread.php?t=7338

[Tempe]

In my league QB's only get 4 pts for a trown TD.. so running backs are the hot pick.. everyone in the first round gets there RB then QB then WR

is a total stats league, pretty unique I believe?

Our categories are QB yards, QB rating, rushing yards, Yards/carry, receptions, receiving yards, Kicker scoring, touchdowns, Def. points against, Def. yards against.

Category points are 12-1/category depending on the stats above…cumulative throughout the entire year. No Playoffs.

You drafted 3 QB's, 5 RB's, 5 WR's, 2 TE's, 2 Kicker's, 2 Def's, and 1 extra RB or WR. Started, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2WR, 1 each of Kicker, TE, and Def, and 1 extra either RB or WR...per week. The draft was round-robin worst finishing team picked 1st then down the line, to finisher picks last in the 1st round, but 1st in the 2nd round, and back again.

12 teams total...1 year keepers (4 for non-money finishers, 3 for money guys)...pretty fun.

[usmcnut]

is a total stats league, pretty unique I believe?

Our categories are QB yards, QB rating, rushing yards, Yards/carry, receptions, receiving yards, Kicker scoring, touchdowns, Def. points against, Def. yards against.

Category points are 12-1/category depending on the stats above…cumulative throughout the entire year. No Playoffs.

You drafted 3 QB's, 5 RB's, 5 WR's, 2 TE's, 2 Kicker's, 2 Def's, and 1 extra RB or WR. Started, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2WR, 1 each of Kicker, TE, and Def, and 1 extra either RB or WR...per week. The draft was round-robin worst finishing team picked 1st then down the line, to finisher picks last in the 1st round, but 1st in the 2nd round, and back again.

12 teams total...1 year keepers (4 for non-money finishers, 3 for money guys)...pretty fun.



Any FF league is fun.. but man yours is like impossible to score yourself..
With all them numbers you have to have a phd. in math

We go QB 4 pts for TD 1pt every 75 yds. -1 pt INT
RB 6 pts for TD rush/rec. 1pt every 25 yards total (rush and Rec.)
WR same
TE same
K 1pt PAT , 3 pt FG , 5 pt FG 50 yds +
DEF/Sp. Teams 6pts for TD 2pt for saftey 1pt INT/sack 10pts shut out , 3 pts for giving up only a FG

I think thats it ..nice and simple

[Loubuck]

I am a 49ers fan, and I have been taking alot of heat in past years, so my smack talking about other teams and players have been lost, but not for the cry baby T.O. What a waste of talent.

[LesPaul]

You should all be Patriots Fans.....nuff said :D :D

[Loubuck]

Can't stand how they try to blow smoke up our :censored: about Brady, and Belichek. I can't stand it when they compare Brady with Montana.

[Flythrower]

Can't stand how they try to blow smoke up our :censored: about Brady, and Belichek. I can't stand it when they compare Brady with Montana.



I see a pretty close resemblence...They both have some serious "Bling" on their fingers!!..:scared:

[Browntrout5]

I see a pretty close resemblence...They both have some serious "Bling" on their fingers!!..:scared:

Hey, nobody throws a better 3 yard pass than Tom Brady. Dont get me started on the New England Patriots :rolleyes: I think watching paint dry is more exciting than watching the Patriots.

Yes TO will be a pain in the ***, but that comes with the territory and in the end Americas team will prevail as Superbowl Champs for the sixth time

Go Cowboys!!

Hey Lil, could have been worse, Al Davis could have picked up Ryan Leaf :ban:

[gottum]

OMG! I was wondeing when a Cowboy bandwagon would roll out.
Parcells is the biggest back stabber in football- I hope he has fun w/ TO-
They deserve each other.
On the other hand gotta love those Dallas Cheerleaders aweyea! :woohoo:

[ecsteelheader]

Ut o I'm a Cowboy Fan!...BUT i say the Giants are the team to beat this year,I really think there going all the way, they have great receivers,great running back, above average defense and a young quarterback on his way to stardom...>))>

[gottum]

Ut o I'm a Cowboy Fan!...BUT i say the Giants are the team to beat this year,I really think there going all the way, they have great receivers,great running back, above average defense and a young quarterback on his way to stardom...>))>

now dats what i'm talkin bout'!

[Tempe]

EC...you will definately burn in hell for that statement!!! No respecting Cowboy fan would EVER think such a thing...shame on you!:D

[woolybugger65]

Like the Jets tried to do with Vinnie Testaverde last year. Look how well that turned out!! I remember the "mad bomber" Darryl Lamonica, Warren Wells, Fred Biletnikoff and the Kenny "the snake" Stabler. An old-time fan of the silver and black-- the toughest team in football for many years. The refs had to call a lot of penalties just to keep them from killing people. Lyle Alzado,Jack Tatum, Howie Long before he was a Fox talking Head! They have had a ton of great characters over the years. Maybe they could bring back George Blanda as a backup.........just kidding

what about #60 otis sistrunk, cliff branch, and ole sticky hands, lester hayes?

[Browntrout5]

I think Big Blue will win thier fair share of games this year (10) But I dont see where they are going to be that great. The Cowboys D will be one of the best this year and the offense will be balanced. Like Parcells or not, he does get the most out of his players.

Sorry Shane, you better count on the wildcard this year :D

[metalslayer]

The way I see it if the O line plays like I've seen in the pre-season it don't matter who's takin the snap:mad:

[Browntrout5]

The way I see it if the O line plays like I've seen in the pre-season it don't matter who's takin the snap:mad:

Who's O line?

[ecsteelheader]

EC...you will definately burn in hell for that statement!!! No respecting Cowboy fan would EVER think such a thing...shame on you!:D


Aweful isnt it...lol...Ive been a Cowboy fan since i was a kid 1970's , i know the Giants are our enemies,,,But they got a hellava team....We got a old quarterback who runs out of steam after 10 games, a so-so running back ,Terry Glenn is good the tight end is good,,,But "TO" :confused: ,dudes a great rec'ver but a headcase...I'll wear my Stars but the Giants are going places:fear:

[JeffL]

E. A. G. L. E. S.

I went to Penn State at the same time Collins did so I am partial- He was better in College. Isn't George going to be a back up?

Seriously- Cowboys will get 1 year out of TO if he plays this year. Bledsoe will never get a ring and will be on his back most of the year. The O-line needs help. Only bright spot on offense is Terry Glen.

EC- your crazy if you think the gwomen will take it all this year. lol Manning needs a least another year or two but they will be tough.

Thank god the pats dinesty is done.

I can't wait to see how Indy does without James.

Fins have a chance.

If the Cheifs defense ever steps up they would be unstopable.

Denver will be good again as well.

NFC East will be tough. Its about time the rest of the teams caught up to the EAGLES... or did the EAGLES digress down to their level? The birds will make the playoffs.

I would like to see N.O. do well this year. They have a shot with Drew Brees but need a D.

[lakeside41]

Jeffl I was also at Penn State when Collins was there. They were fun to watch but I had the the unfortunate priviledge of meeting him a couple of times and have not been a fan since. Even though I am a NY boy I Love PSU and the STEELERS!!!!

[Browntrout5]

The birds will make the playoffs.

I will bet you a night out at the DBI that dont, they will be lucky to win 8 games
;)

[gottum]

The Eagles couldn't beat Penn State no less a NFL team:faint:

[JeffL]

We shall see my friends- BT- your on. Gottum- what do you want as colateral for a day of fishing?

[pulaskinaut]

what about #60 otis sistrunk, cliff branch, and ole sticky hands, lester hayes?

John Matusak, Ben Davidson, Ted Hendricks, Jim Otto...the list goes on and on of great players who were also great "characters".. How could anyone not love the Raiders???

Kerry Collins??? Last Giants game I went to a few years back the Redskins pounded the Giants in the brutal cold. Collins sucked so badly that he was booed for most of the game until he got hurt. Then the fans gave him a standing O when he was carried off the field for leaving. I couldn't believe the Raiders took him..

[Eric**]

I hate to bring back this old thread, but for you Raiders fans I would just like to let you know that they released Jeff George. So now ticket money wont have to go for Viagara and Metamucil.

Eric

[The Griz]

Used to be a Cowboys fan...then Landry retired. Johnson was a joke. Once
the good players retired, they bombed. Haven't watched any entire pro game
in over 6 years. Best thing about any game now, or any team, is the cheerleaders and the commercials.....or a good Sunday nap. :D

Now college ball........that rocks more than pro. Got some nice sentimental
scars from those warrior days. Ya gotta admit, last years bowl games were
the best ever.

~Griz~

[Eric**]

Used to be a Cowboys fan...then Landry retired. Johnson was a joke. Once
the good players retired, they bombed. Haven't watched any entire pro game
in over 6 years. Best thing about any game now, or any team, is the cheerleaders and the commercials.....or a good Sunday nap. :D

Now college ball........that rocks more than pro. Got some nice sentimental
scars from those warrior days. Ya gotta admit, last years bowl games were
the best ever.

~Griz~

Damn right griz. Ive found myself getting more and more into college ball every year. You dont have to listen to the bullcrap about " I dont get the ball " " I dont get enough money " from a bunch of overpaid nitwits. Although I do love pro ball, its getting somewhat old, college ball seems more exciting and true.

Eric

[The Griz]

Players getting millions of dollars to play a game, and we have working folks
making a pittance for busting their azzes. When a sportsperson makes more
than the President per year, that says something about our society eh? I had
to laugh today, I remember when I was playing college ball, if we did good
(i.e. a leveling hit that would rattle some guys cage) we'd get an extra
steak at dinner. Shoulda tried to go on and make those millions! LOL!!

But, I don't want to start something here. It's been a fun thread to read!
And yeah, I miss the old Raiders too, still dig the Steelers and Green Bay.

Anybody else on here play college and/or pro ball? I played for the Univ of Wyoming back in the 70's. Offensive right tackle and special teams (headhunters) and enjoyed my steaks. :D

~Griz~

[woolybugger65]

Used to be a Cowboys fan...then Landry retired. Johnson was a joke. Once
the good players retired, they bombed. Haven't watched any entire pro game
in over 6 years. Best thing about any game now, or any team, is the cheerleaders and the commercials.....or a good Sunday nap. :D

Now college ball........that rocks more than pro. Got some nice sentimental
scars from those warrior days. Ya gotta admit, last years bowl games were
the best ever.

~Griz~

johnson was a joke? 3 superbowls, come on. i am not a boys fan but if i were 3 rings is an accomplishment. aikmen was a man!
i still have respect for ya griz.
ask LIL if placekickers got steaks.

[JeffL]

Switzer ruined the cowboys. I was a fan when Dorset and Stauback played. But I agree - College is the best. Look out Notre Dame next weekend.

Anyway- My superbowl pick

Bengles vs. Panthers with Carolina taking it all.

[Eric**]

Even though I am a Raiders fan first, I do love the Steelers. BUUUTTT, my wife is a Bengals fan, ( made for an interesting playoff game here at the house last year ) I'm going with the Bengals to not only make it, but win the Super Bowl this year.

Eric

[Tiogafishaddict]

:D E-A-G-L-E-S!! EVERYONE IS COUNTING THEM OUT!! watch out there commin,, no one can stop that offience well cept for injuries, and the D is gonna be a top 5! hear me now believe me later.

[gottum]

:D E-A-G-L-E-S!! EVERYONE IS COUNTING THEM OUT!! watch out there commin,, no one can stop that offience well cept for injuries, and the D is gonna be a top 5! hear me now believe me later.

U must be dreaming u'll come to ur senses when u awaken

[Tiogafishaddict]

U must be dreaming u'll come to ur senses when u awaken

LOLOL!! bastid!! just wait,, the new joiuseyyy gints will understand come week two!