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Steelebob
05-24-2006, 12:28 AM
http://www.alaskaflyfishingonline.com/afb/eggfleshindex.html
Check out claymore and the SITUK Egg

Craydaddy
05-24-2006, 09:13 AM
Has anyone used these eggs and set up for salmon or is it not a good set up for them? (You know snaggin, getting busted by DEC)??????

Snagger
05-24-2006, 09:24 AM
Yeah :whip: Them Salmon. Spot Em Got Em:D I have talked to guys from around here that have been to Alaska before. It wasn't very long before somebody from up there asks, "Are you guys from New York?" That was after they had hooked up with an insane amount of salmon, while most others were only hooking a few. Looks like the guys that fish the Salmon River really have a knack for salmon fishing. I am actually afraid to visit Alaska, with the fear that I wouldn't want to return here:eek:

BUdrew
05-25-2006, 01:49 AM
I have landed many salmon on the beads....never used clay or seen it used for that matter. Looks like another arts and craft project to look into this summer. I can't see how using either of these tactics would get you busted by the DEC unless you were intentionally snagging fish, which would get you busted no matter what rig you were using. You can snag fish with any set up, why people think using beads/clay is a form of snagging is beyond me.

Bead fishing is an embraced tactic in Alaska, the Pacific North West and Michigan. If bead fishing is snagging then Matt Supinski, author of the famous “Steelhead Dreams” as well as many other Great Lake Fishing books, who is possibly one of our sports leading experts is a snagger and you need to direct your hate mail towards him. His lodge, Gray Drake Outfitters, on the Muskegon River use beads to fool heavily pressured late season Steelhead for years. I think awareness and education will wake the elitist Salmon River community up to the idea in due time.

Because of the Salmon River's history and reputation snagging in a sensitive issue, I understand this. Fishermen who take the time to paint their beads on the river, or mold the beads out of carefully chosen clay then firing them in their oven are not out snagging fish. The end result could be accomplished without all the trouble using anything from a store bought wollybugger to a hook with a piece of sponge on it. Bead fishermen are simply matching the hatch just as any trout fishermen would do on a spring freestone stream. The problem is not the bead rig, it’s the fishermen abusing our rivers.

griz104
05-25-2006, 07:35 AM
KUDO'S to you Budrew!! You are so very right! I myself have fished beads for quite a few years and did so in Michigan this past Spring. Why? Simply because they work! I gave up trying to beat a dead horse in here when so many many closed minded people kept calling it a snagging method. Education is the key to so many things and i just figured that if they didn't want to learn a new method it was their loss. Like the story goes..If they only knew...

Bluefin
05-25-2006, 04:38 PM
I have nothing against using beads as a lure/bait. It's how they are rigged that is questionable. If they are placed above the hook, I can't really see how the fish would not get hooked on the outside of the mouth which is the problem in NY. I did try this setup in AK last summer and did hook a lot of fish outside of the mouth but it is a legal method in their waters.

BUdrew
05-25-2006, 05:06 PM
KUDO'S to you Budrew!! You are so very right! I myself have fished beads for quite a few years and did so in Michigan this past Spring. Why? Simply because they work! I gave up trying to beat a dead horse in here when so many many closed minded people kept calling it a snagging method. Education is the key to so many things and i just figured that if they didn't want to learn a new method it was their loss. Like the story goes..If they only knew...


Thanks Griz104

I think if more people were to see the rig in action their opinions would be very different. I think NY needs to take a look at the issue and address it in the rule book, that way there would be no question of its legality. Limiting the bead to 1.5 to 2 inches above the hook is a good place to start. Any further and your pushing the lineing limits.