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10wt
10-31-2005, 07:25 AM
All things being equal what is the safest wader material in terms of surving a fall in a river?

gebbyfish
10-31-2005, 07:53 AM
I really don't know if there is a "safest wader". Any wader can fill with water if you go in. Make it safer with a wading belt, stream cleats on the Salmon River, and think about those CO2 inflating fisherman suspenders, belts, or vests. Wade smartly as well(i.e. don't cross the river unless you know you can get there AND back at whatever level).

TOPGUN
10-31-2005, 09:20 AM
In my non-expert opinion I would say neoprene. It has a slight buoyancy of it's own and it's tight fit will lessen, not limit or prevent, but lessen the amound of water that will fill if you take a fall. A wading belt will also decrease this.

keukakatch&release
10-31-2005, 09:53 AM
I forget the brand, but I remember seeing a pair of waders that had an internal "dam" designed to keep water out should you go under. Not sure how well it would work.....

Stonefly
10-31-2005, 09:53 AM
All things being equal what is the safest wader material in terms of surving a fall in a river?

Safest - would be the person in them, not the material there mafe out of..

Did you the mean best material that wont rip or tear in case you fall or catch your waders on something and tear your waders open???

Craydaddy
10-31-2005, 09:55 AM
Did you the mean best material that wont rip or tear in case you fall or catch your waders on something and tear your waders open???

I would need steel waders!! I can ruin any pair of waders!! :D

Hamj
10-31-2005, 11:13 AM
I would need steel waders!! I can ruin any pair of waders!! :D
You just need chain-male, the stuff shake divers use, to put over your waders.
http://www.nerostuff.com/images/index.5.jpg

woolybugger65
10-31-2005, 01:11 PM
hamj, you shoulda put crays face in that pic!! :D

Hamj
10-31-2005, 01:42 PM
hamj, you shoulda put crays face in that pic!! :D
I was going to but i might need advice for wednesday!!

Craydaddy
10-31-2005, 01:57 PM
Smart kid. ;) I have a picture ready to go. :D

goinhungry
10-31-2005, 02:06 PM
I've gotta agree with Topgun on this one. I've got neoprene and they do become rather bouyant in water, but I'm sure that wouldn't matter much if they were filled with water! I always wear a wading belt and exercise care - I think those are the most important considerations. I will say though, this being my fist weekend up there, that the SR is VERY disceptive re current/flow. I've been in water that looks alot "faster" and been totally fine, but there were places up near the school house that looked slow and once you got in... well, I was nervous and didn't go much higher than my knees in a lot of places. That current at 900 was STRONG - can't imagine 1500:eek: Be careful out there!

metalslayer
10-31-2005, 08:52 PM
On a warm day u don't have to fall in to fill up the neos:rolleyes:

the happy salmon
11-01-2005, 04:06 AM
Safest - would be the person in them, not the material there mafe out of..NO need to wade over your knees.... stonefly has the best advise.. the person in them! if you are wading past your knees... you areprobably scaring the fish anyway!!! stay dry and stay safe! the fish are right next to your feet any WAYS!:D

tod
11-01-2005, 10:40 AM
Happy just gave all readers the best advice for any angler of migratory fish. Migratory fish are traveling to spawning water and as they make their way to the spawning gravel they use paths of least resistance, generally the current is slower along the edges than in the middle of the river making their journey hydrodynamically easier if they travel in these edges or seams. It is only when they are spooked (in which case they aren't biting) or if the water volume doesn't allow safe passage that fish will travel mid river. If you are standing deeper than your knees you are in these seams and as a result spooking fish. A plethura of fish are not caught because anglers where standing in their path. Not to mention it is hard to find yourself in danger if you are not in knee deep water. As a rule I try to never wade unless absolutely necessary to make a decent presentation of my bait and frequently I don't even bring waders when I am fishing water with enough side clearance of brush to make casts, such as the Genny the Niag.

comanche
11-01-2005, 10:52 AM
waist high-at least would stop most of the people that always think they have too wade up to there neck to catch fish up there??

Craydaddy
11-01-2005, 11:20 AM
Just like this retard!!! I took this picture this year. This guy is just dumb!!!

http://www.salmoncrazy.com/vgallery/files/1/0/8/stupidguy.JPG

Finatic
11-01-2005, 11:41 AM
Check out this link to a beach fishing website. Need to copy and paste. http://www.thebassbarn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=006483#000013 These shirts are not cheap but looks like they would keep you dry in case you went in. Looks like you could use any chest wader you want. Some kayakers where them in the fall. They looks like they would help you float as well. The safest thing is to keep your head and not try to do too much. If that miss step or accident happens, this would keep dry and boots empty.

champlain fisher
11-01-2005, 06:40 PM
Not Only Is He Out Farther Than Need Be, Those Look Like All Rubber Waders - Can You Say Slip Slidin Away

ecsteelheader
11-01-2005, 09:13 PM
Just like this retard!!! I took this picture this year. This guy is just dumb!!!

http://www.salmoncrazy.com/vgallery/files/1/0/8/stupidguy.JPG


With those rubberwaders and wading in the blackhole yepper he's a re-re:confused: >))>

I know neo's have saved my a$$ in the SR,i slipped and fell and went under and came right back up,luckily i was close enough to shore to grab a tree root,ive learned my lesson no fish is worth your life>))>

Craydaddy
11-02-2005, 08:48 AM
The scary part about that guy is that I see him every year there, same spot same depth. Doesn't matter what the flow he is up to his chest!!!